Alcoholic

seems to me like you got a couple things going on....

first off your 20 years old so thats extremely glorified in your age bracket, everyone is drinking and thinks its cool and whatnot....parties, college, chicks, clubs etc....."yo dude, take a shot"....blah blah.....i been there, done that.......i get it.......

answer you own question and be honest to yourself,,,,,,on those days when you decide to drink those 10 beers, could you just stop after 1 or 2 and be contempt?  if you say no and your body craves that intoxication effect, then maybe you have a starting problem that could potentially lead to alcoholism down the road. i would say to try to stop or slow down or limit your intake seeing that it gets you nowhere and it ruins your body. If its a real struggle to only have one or two drinks then you may want to consider not drinking at all because you may have a addictive personality developing.  i know partying is fun for the moment but its a huge illusion and the next day is the reality......

I'm no saint, I'm 11 years older than you and i still overdue it on occasion but its stupid and i try my hardest to limit my intake because usually when i get that drunk, nothing positive comes out of it and i usually make an asshole out of myself.......ive had a DUI and lost my license for one year when i was 25 and I've been in more bar fights than i can remember most of the time getting my ass kicked..... but looking back, i regret 85% of it........so just think long and hard about your future and relationship with alcohol......

hope this helped, I'm no counselor......im struggling myself.....

good luck buddy

good luck with your decision......

Hey ! If you were an alcoholic you would get drunk with one beer . You are the stage that you have connected going out and chilling  with drinking beers . It is just a habbit . I suggest you start drinking lemonades . One ,two , three lemonades.. You've got to realize that  cheering up with drinking alcohol are not connected . You feel a lot more cheered up and feel the real energy of yours when you do not drink for some time . Just think about this . When you was 12 years old did you drink alcohol to cheer up ? There does not exist in no way an age that you cannot cheer up with no use of substances .  It is just that there is everywhere the image of going to a bar and drinking alcohol . We are the next generation that needs to awake . They want us to drink and smoke because they earn money from us .Because if the 16 year old sees us drinking and smokin the odds are that he will drink and smoke too . And they keep earning more and more money . And we keep getting sicker and sicker . Until the time we cannot climb up easily . The answer for both alcohol and ciggaretes is water . When you wanna drink drink half a litre water.That's not enough?Drink another half a litre . Time passes and you want to drink or smoke?Drink more water . Water . I wish you realize soon now that you are young - I'm young too , 25 - that not drinking alcohol is the real celebration . It's a mistake to drink to celebrate . Why?When you was12 did you drink to celebrate? Drink water and try to drag your friends out of it ,not the other way around . There is no reason you should feel less cool if you just don't drink . It's a reason to feel more cool .I hope I helped I just speak my mind    P E A C E

Thanks guys for the replies. The next time i decide to go out im just going to have 2 beers and eventually i wouldnt need it anymore. i wish i had sober friends. I honestly don;t know anyone that doesnt smoke or drink. Gotta be by myself thats the only way. And im on day 13 without weed + cigs :D SMOKING SUCKSSS ITS FOR LOSERSS  

I like that quote by the way "drugs gave me wings but took away the sky"

guess that makes me a loser :P

Keep going man ur doing a great job. Try to keep it under 10 glasses and drink at saturdays only. Try to find a serious girl, u will outgrow the alcohol man.
Smoking and weed are more difficult to quit. Btw I dont drink alcohol ( maybe one or two bottles a year MAX) because Ive been in hospital when i was 19 from drinking too much in a fast pace. So dont become like me, a guy who has been deceived alot in his life. But im still going strong, I dont want to come off as religious but the most important thing in life is that men seek truth. Christ is truth, he aint organized religion, its a relationship between you and God. Dont let nobody tell you otherwise.

God Bless amd greetings from a college drop out from Holland :P

im 28 btw

I think Abyss answered your question perfectly about whether or not you have a drinking problem, by the way, in post #2 if anyone is wondering.  You were asking about friends though.  It's really hard to do quit these things without having sober friends' support, I get that.  The important part is keeping your drinking in check first of all....you should be able to hang out and drink socially and not feel like you need all those beers to have a good time.  If you are an alcoholic after all, then yes, you do need to avoid those friends!!!  If you have the drinking in check, assuredly you can drink with them....but if they punish you for being different, not drinking as much, and not being cool.....THEN you may have to step away and let them either grow up or stay the same, but on their own.  Don't let your friends be any bearing on what YOU know is best for you, is all I am saying.

I was an alcoholic for over six years.  Some of my friends were also alcoholics and some were not.  Those friends who were problem drinkers, I dropped them like a lead weight.  The others who drank minimally, they got a heartfelt "you can support me by not inviting me to another drinking function" from me one day.  That's how my recovery began.  Later down the road, like after about 6 months, I had to convince those "minimal" drinking friends that it was okay to invite me to a party where alcohol would be around.    :^D

After thinking long and hard about my future, i decided to quit alcohol. I dont need alcohol to have a fun time. Im gonna live up to my name and actually live a sober life. I know this is going to be hard at first but hopefully ill overcome this addiction like my weed and cigs addiction. Im on day 15 without smoking going strong. I dunno how im going to be able to chill wit my friends without alcohol but im gonna try my hardest. After i quit smoking weed, i still chill with my stoner friends but while they smoke i drink. I cannot be with my stoner friends sober. I guess i replaced weed with alcohol. Now that im quitting alcohol i doubt i will even chill with those guys. Its hard to ignore them because i been getting messed up with them for almost 6 years now. Any advice will be appreciated. 

hey buddy what I did is stayed at home most of the time for the first months ,watched many movies , listen to songs I had and never listened before or to new songs , and I was so determined that the very few times I met them over these months I did not smoke nothng and only drinked a beer or two glasses of wine or sometimes I got drunk . Now after all this time passed and feeling strongly determined that I will never smoke again ever(never was an alcoholic anyway) , even when I found this guys just to chill we did not even understand each other . They were out of range of my mind.They were in  a whole different dimension . I write about this dimension in the forum " General weed . ." I've made a page "have not smoked for 4 months and never .. ." . It's the first post . So now I don't even feel the need or even want to hang with those guys . I do not even care . It feels good hanging with your family . And studying man . I was not studying for 7 years smoking weed and now I might get kicked out of university because of a new law about how many lessons you have left . And remember this from me . Do not waste your time telling them to quit too.They just won't listen . Stick with your decision and do not let anyone talk you out of it . Again I tell you do not start talking them out of smoking and drinking . They won't listen .If someone wants to stop then it's wise to talk to them . Otherwise you will just waste your time . You can talk about how greater you feel without it .But with not trying to persuade them .Hey download this animation series "Avatar the last airbender " . It's really great . Not the movie . The animation series . You will spend your time sober really happy. Wish the best friend

Thanks man, I totally agree with what you said especially the part about don't try to make them quit anything if they don't want to. I remember a few days ago i was with 6 of my friends and after i drank about 2 beers i was going on and on about not smoking weed no more and how good it feels. All my friends had to say was "stop preaching man", "your a faggot dude", "come hit the blunt" just stupid unsupportive things. But i didnt care because im 100% sure i will never smoke again no matter who im chilling with. I didnt let it get to me so i just shut up and kept on drinking. After they got high, nobody said a word for like 10minutes. In my head i was like "wow i cant believe i used to be an effin ZOMBIE" Like after they get high i dont even wanna be with them cause its so boring that i would rather be at home having my own party. I dunno what makes me want to link up with them. I know i am addicted to going out with friends so i gotta stop that before i can stop the drinking. Thanks kotakaiaugo for the support, Im gonna download the last airbender animation series, never seen it. I watched part 1 in the theaters cant wait til part 2 comes out.  Drugs aren't cool it can ruin your life!

Yeah I feel exactly the same way . I get exactly the same responses here  . It can be really disappointing . They act as if why are not talking about their own good . After these months now I really do not want to hang out we them all .They are in a whole other world . Hypnotized .Zombies - that's what I too use to say here . Happy you already feel that way man.Do not ever even think that you have a problem now .They have a problem and theιr mind eye is too blurred to see that .Gotta look out for you . You will definitely start loving your sober mood and state of mind if you don't already.Happy you so determined . I am also happy I am not alone . Here in Volos I feel like walking among burned people where nobody understands . The stoned culture is so into everyones minds .As my father once told me when I was talking about the "benefits" of weed  "According to the weed smokers we should put pot in the milk" . Haha he was so right but at that time I Iaughed at him or got angry . It's like it completely changes your way of thinking - that bullshit . Anyway if anyone tells you it's natural tell them snake's poison is natural too , why don't we all get a snake to bite us ? .Haha just make fun of them ,avoid to get angry . After all they cannot understand you but you can understand them because you 've been in their shoes . That can be really irritating though because it's a simple thought . You ve been both sober and high and know that it feels better to be sober .They do not know it is better because they have only been high . I still wonder how they cannot understand that simple thing and talk back .

"I'm getting good , I'm getting clever , I'm getting things right in my life I'm getting better , I'm getting something for me . . " - it's from a song named children sing by pacewon if you wanna listen to it
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE how everybody supports everybody in here . It feel so good having people to talk to and really understand you

   LOVE   FROM GREECE

Hello my friends
I quit smoking cigs about a year and a half, i havent smoke weed about a month i dont remember exactly when was the last time i got high.
Personally the real problem i have is the alcohol.It was nothing to me to stop smoking cigs and i have already demystificated the weed.
I m 23 years old and i spend all my money to taverns and bars.How stupid is that???? I drink 4 or 5 days of week and i drink a lot and not the same drink all the night.
The positive thing is that by quiting weed i started practising to sports, something i had forgotten for months.I swim almost every day i play basketball and some push ups. It is something that really makes me feel good,but when the sun goes down i cant thing anything else except of going out and drink.I dont know how to stop it really.
I know that this shit destroys my mind and my psychology.I have worked it already in my mind.I have accepted that i am addicted and i m ready to stop getting drunk not every day but like forever.I m talking about the drunk dimension not to quit totally.I think that drinking some wine (like three or four glasses of pure wine) its okay.Some not a lot of wine.The point in my mind i want to reach is to manage to be sober.To drink not for destroying my mind but to warm my heart.
I dont know if i am undersstanable.
Sorry for my english.I m from the city of the new messiah of human sober soul, kotakaiaugo.
I dedicate to him and to all of you the song which i post below.

Peace Love n Creativity

Hey man so you think youve a bit of a drink problem at 23. Well its not too late to cut down now before it gets the better of you. Why do you drink is it to make you feel more confident, or is it peer pressure from the company you keep. Have you no woman or are you trying to get a partner for a bit of love and stability. In my experience when you get a woman all that going out everynight soon stops and she assasinates your single friends that are a danger to her by leading you astray man. Thats what irish girls do anyhow. Irish wives hate single mates that their men go to the pub with. Jealous in case you have a good time without her, all my mates wives are the same. Single mates and wives dont go here, so the going out all the time slows down a bit. It seems you have a good life and quit the smoke but perhaps drink at night to fill the void because the void maybe feels like lonely. Lonely people go out most nights to seek the company of others, and hope to find partners to fill the void of emptiness. The drink has become your friend. At 23 you are still young and can be whatever you want. If you are mentally strong enough to give up the weed, you also can quit the alcohol too. Alcoholics are lonely people even more so than dope smokers. But its a strong legal drug too easily available. Know your limits. Sure what would i know anyhow, but its good to hear from you.

Thats a strange town you come from, did you make it up? it sounds ficticious. Your english is excellent man, you studied well at school.

cheers

rico

Vrontoooo my man happy you came here, we are like a family and listen to each other.About the alcohol one thing is because in this town there is like some sort of a culture that finds it normal to connect going out and having fun with drinking tsipouro or wine.It's like that is the normal thing to do.And since you have started drinking these and the night is still young when you continue your night out to some bar of course you will continue with more alcohol.The mistake is connecting going out with drinking alcohol.It takes real strength to go out and drink water where everybody around you drinks alcohol.It seems people realize that alcohol is a drug but act like they don't.It's all about habit though.When you have a habit ,whatever that is, and you quit it you'll feel like there is something missing.For example if you have connected staying at home in the afternoon with listening to music and one day you stop that and start staying at home in the afternoon without listening to music you will fill emptiness like there is something missing.It is the same with going out at night and drinking alcohol.If you start going out at night without drinking you will feel like something is missing.But that's the essence of the habit.In addition to that it is the habit of your behavior when you are drunk.You seem to be used to that.It's all about habit.
Anyway I believe in you and we will go out and drink water to make the difference haha

Hey man thanks for the reply.
I dont think that im drinking because i feel more confident.Every morning i wake up with hangover and depression not confidence.Its the addiction itself i think.
Im from Volos,here everybody drinks alcohol.Personally i started drinking my grandfather's wine at the age of 8 and my first vodka was at the age of 11.
Every friend of mine drinks and for sure if i find a woman i will be surprised if she doesnt drink..so as you understand to an enviroment like that its tough to stop but not impossible.As for the void of emptiness, i have made many companies and some really good friends.Besides of that  the thing is that i love meeting new people, just im sick of doing that in that way.I have started testing new methods and day by day i believe that i will see some positive effectives.

As for the town no i didnt make it up.It was a joke about kotakaiaugo who posts also here (from that guy i heard this blog)
We live in the same city Volos, he is a very good friend.

Greetings from Greece

Peace Love n Creativity